What 'drew me' to the draw scope? Boom Tsh! I'm here all week.
While I've not been posting much lately I've been preparing for a couple of adventures, working, and the Elfa is Spanish, er lets just leave it at that. Currently I'm off work with a bad back so I may have jinxed it all.
For the next trip I'll need to see the deer a fair way across open country, and on the one after we'll be mapping an orchard that encompasses a whole hillside, where terrain permitting we'll be scouting out a space for a 200m+ .22LR range. I've used a pair of Eden 8x42 binos for the last few years and don't see the point in upgrading them, they are so close to perfect I'm more likely to buy a spare pair. While the 8x42 class is wonderful for woodlands, they don't help so much as things get a bit further away. I wanted a decent spotting scope.
The tools of a hunting guide have moved on from dressed in rags, lives on wallpaper paste and government cheese but owns a pair of $2000 binoculars, now he has a prismatic spotting scope, and prices have moved on from $2,000 too. It's really become the must-have tool for guides working big landscapes, they are a wonder of engineering. At my place al wildlife in within bio range, at the Elfa's there are all sorts of things you could see. You can also attach an appropriately shaped piece of plastic which lets you clip on your smartphone to record proceedings or even attach a DSLR camera, if you've got any money left after buying it in the first place. Cheap they aint. I was stumped.
When the chance to borrow the entry level Swarovski CTC in 30x75 came up, I said 'thanks a lot' and slunk away to look this gift-horse in the mouth.
I'd seen a few pictures of Scots Ghillies in tweed Deerstalker hats using the traditional draw scope but I'd not considered one before. I actually didn't know Swarovski made one, I don't really associate them with anything so low tech. Seems sometimes simplicity is practicality personified. Prismatic scopes are weighty in the hand and need a tripod if you are to get comfortable. Whereas the draw scope is almost half the weight of the smallest prismatic scope.
I'd seen a few pictures of Scots Ghillies in tweed Deerstalker hats using the traditional draw scope but I'd not considered one before. I actually didn't know Swarovski made one, I don't really associate them with anything so low tech. Seems sometimes simplicity is practicality personified. Prismatic scopes are weighty in the hand and need a tripod if you are to get comfortable. Whereas the draw scope is almost half the weight of the smallest prismatic scope.
Glassing the hill Ghillie style, seen from a distance in this position the keepers body loses its 'human' outline and the estate-tweed becomes environment specific camo, blending in to the landscape.
Bisley 600 yards .308 target sights. Keep scrolling in, 600 yards is a long way, a very long way
While a tripod is almost essential for the range, where you're leaving the scope pointed in one place, out in the campo a draw scope rests so well on your knee, a fencepost or the top of a pack. It's far more go-anywhere. There really isn't a lot to go wrong, with prismatic scopes all that precision gearing that feels so smooth in your hand, is another thing to go wrong, jam or need costly servicing. The draw scope is two tubes and some O rings. Doesn't hurt that its literally half the price of their bottom of the range prismatic scope.
As you can see you don't get a lot in the box, a telescope, a cleaning kit, strap, and case with end caps. I thought the lens caps were missing but a quick read of the inventory shows Swarovski, relying on the case's covers, have done away with them. Not too sure how I feel about that.
How's it to look though? Goes without saying Swarovski is the Shizzle!
I've been spending a few evenings shooting .22 prone in a jacket, I can hit the targets well enough if I can get comfortable in the straightjacket, some weeks it's a big 'if' so discomfort lead me to the club's other shooting discipline: Lightweight Sporting Rifle, which has frustrations of its own.
LSR is ten round groups at 25m standing, no sling. With ranges stretching out in stages to a remarkable 400m!! Yep 400m with .22LR !! The two main choices of rifle are tricked-out 10/22's or AR15's with dedicated .22 LR uppers by CMMG or Spikes. So far I prefer the ergonomics of the AR's. I love the idea of .22 LR at 400m; its technical challenges are fascinating, it's ammo costs are bearable. Most of my shooting experience has been of the dinner-bell kind with fixed power scopes, so the bewildering technical aspects of today's scopes are all new to me. I found this guide to long range scopes about the clearest writing on the subject. I'm still nowhere near making my choice yet, and all the budget is spoken for by another project which I'll let you know about in the next few weeks.
Please: Never ever scan the terrain though a rifle scope with the bolt closed, just don't risk it.
More soon
You pal
SBW
Picture credit for the Ghillie and the estateHow's it to look though? Goes without saying Swarovski is the Shizzle!
"Buy the best scope you can, spend the change on a rifle" - attirb. Richard Prior
I've been spending a few evenings shooting .22 prone in a jacket, I can hit the targets well enough if I can get comfortable in the straightjacket, some weeks it's a big 'if' so discomfort lead me to the club's other shooting discipline: Lightweight Sporting Rifle, which has frustrations of its own.
"It ain't braggin' if yer really done it" v's 'It is a fluke if you only done it once'
LSR is ten round groups at 25m standing, no sling. With ranges stretching out in stages to a remarkable 400m!! Yep 400m with .22LR !! The two main choices of rifle are tricked-out 10/22's or AR15's with dedicated .22 LR uppers by CMMG or Spikes. So far I prefer the ergonomics of the AR's. I love the idea of .22 LR at 400m; its technical challenges are fascinating, it's ammo costs are bearable. Most of my shooting experience has been of the dinner-bell kind with fixed power scopes, so the bewildering technical aspects of today's scopes are all new to me. I found this guide to long range scopes about the clearest writing on the subject. I'm still nowhere near making my choice yet, and all the budget is spoken for by another project which I'll let you know about in the next few weeks.
Please: Never ever scan the terrain though a rifle scope with the bolt closed, just don't risk it.
More soon
You pal
SBW
Well, something new to learn all the time. I'd never even heard of a "draw" scope, although on review, it appears to be a spiffed up telescope or field glass.
ReplyDeleteSwaro is definitely the cat's pajamas when it comes to optical quality, so I'm betting these things were wonderful to use and hard to return (you said you'd borrowed them, correct?).
Looking forward to hearing more about the adventures in the field. And now I have to go clean out my old .22 and find a 400m pasture to shoot across.
Phillip
ReplyDeleteEr yes, my guess is that with the ubiquity of the prismatic's they needed a new name for an old idea.
I actually still have it, and may well do for a while. If funds were no object I'd have prismatic, but I've read of a few stalkers who have found the draw scope more practical, I'll let you know after more testing.
The whole micro-cal long-range thing promise to be a most amusing distraction, now that we've exceeded the practical range of our archery camp.
SBW
I never knew the Swaro guys even made such a thing....
ReplyDeleteI like it. I just hate hauling a giant spotter around for the kind of hunting I do. I've been using the Zeiss Dialyt for a few years...I like it. This might be better.
Hodge
ReplyDeleteSo far I'm pretty impressed, chronic back pain has kept me from even taking it to the park so far, but its light and feels unbreakable (not that i'm in a hurry to test that) unlike Prismatic's which feel as expensive as they are.
SBW
Sorry, i know the thread is old, but still 'find-able' Tasco/Perma made a Japanese 32x80, cheaper buy a long way a German test if 6 similar scopes including Swaro and OPTOLYTH said it was nkt as good, but quote 'very close' 100 vs 1000 pounds, take your pick.
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